On religion, superstition and science
Vruz and I still disagree on religion. He writes:
most dictionaries tell us:
religion
a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
superstition
an irrational belief arising from ignorance or fear
vruz: therefore, organisations that propagate fear of supernatural powers are agents of organised superstition.
Vruz’s dictionary, unfortunately, is not very good. It leaves out any sort of atheistic or pantheistic religion. Here’s a more helpful definition:
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhumanagency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conductof human affairs.2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
Vruz continues:
I believe there’s a room for spirituality, and I don’t believe science and spirituality are mutually exclusive. If you’d like to call spirituality a religion, it’s your choice of words.
I don’t actually consider generic spirituality a religion—because I don’t know what it means. Too often we say “I’m very spiritual” in the same way we say “I’m very deep.” We might as well say, “I consider myself to have a special connectedness to the rest of the universe that others aren’t privy to.” Or perhaps by saying, “I’m very spiritual” we mean, “something within me longs for more than the ordinary. I am searching.” In that case, it’s a liminal state. We’ve heard a calling but haven’t figured out how to answer. At other times we talk about spiritual disciplines such as prayer, meditation, fasting, and so on, they’re a means to something more important. But I’m not a big fan of spirituality for the sake of spirituality. (But, as a mirror to what Vruz suggests, if somebody is more comfortable with the term “spirituality” than the term “religion,” by all means, use spirituality.)
however, what far too many people understand by religion is a hierarchical social system, organized by men, with a more or less defined set of roles and rules, a belief in a supernatural power beyond our understanding, all of which is tightly controlled by certain authorities, interpreting writings that have a final say on the spiritual experience of people, and the behaviour they are expected to follow.
Many religions are hierarchical, centrally organized, or both. It’s not categorically true. Most protestants, for example, will prioritize personal experience over central teaching. In fact, that basic question of authority and interpretation was pretty central to the whole reformation.
this definition of religion is indeed incompatible with science. facts are no matter of subjective experience, reading, or authority. truth is a verifiable correspondence between facts and what we say of such facts.
Is that really what truth is? Let me make a few unverifiable statements. Tell me which is false:
- Torture is wrong.
- We have a responsibility to help those around us.
- Genocide is an atrocity.
there’s no such thing as a scientifically verifiable supernatural thing, because science doesn’t make any claims to the supernatural, only barely and humbly attempting to make some sense of the natural world, as a framework to aid our narrow understanding and limited senses.
Sure. By definition, you can’t verify something supernatural through natural means. That sort of thing happens when you define something as supernatural. But this is a tautology.
social systems that encourage and propagate fear, ignorance and the belief that science has done nothing to improve the life of people in the world —and moreover— make dangerous recommendations that put the lives of people at serious risk, are actually evil organisations that I condemn and I have no fear in calling out for what they are.
Go for it. And yes, you will probably find a few religious organizations that will agree with the statement that “science has done nothing to improve the life of people in the world.” You won’t find a whole lot. Attributing those beliefs to all religious organizations is sort of like saying that all Europeans are pedophiles. You’ll be able to find some anecdotal evidence to back up your statement, but it’s still absurdly overinclusive.
Vruz concludes:
the whole purpose of understanding the world is to help make people live better lives. not in fear, not in ignorance, and not out of submission to powers they can’t comprehend. I contend that in such regard, organised superstition is mutually exclusive with science, as their aims, objectives and methods are profoundly incompatible.
I suppose I could contend that all science is about creating armies of reanimated corpses to enslave the world—but that wouldn’t mean I have a clue what I’m talking about. If you search through the world of people and organizations that identify themselves as religious, you’ll absolutely find some reprehensible things. You can find reprehensible things if you look hard enough at any large group. But don’t categorically dismiss the core beliefs of a majority of the world without making an effort to understand why they are so important. Nor does it make sense to condemn the ignorant beliefs of others when you are ignorant of what they believe.